Why Therapy Doesn’t Work For Mentally Ill People

Thank you being sincere

Therapists are fallible and broken human beings as well. Perhaps putting them on a pedestal is not always a sound policy.

You are so right I am at a point and been this way for a very long time but it's so bad now that I can't even get out of bed I honestly don't know what to do anymore

I have a therapist who was a social worker and I feel like her background and past jobs make her an amazing therapist , I think she’s a gem in the field lol.

The wild part is that therapists don’t seem to do their part in this vetting process. They seem to blame the client. Oh he was not ready yet to make the change yet, oh he was not able to stick with the time and/or financial commitments. It seems like a gross abuse of the clients trust in the academic degree. 
Obviously there’s always exceptions to the rule, but it’s also hard to meet them because therapists are often fully booked via insurance or are simply a high financial investment for the majority of the population. Spending 500€ to get to know each other with no progress made is something you’ll just not do 20 times over.

You’re soooo right!!

Maybe the problem isn't us, its the modern system.

I TOTALLY AGREE. I think therapy just keeps the problem ongoing. The problem your suppose to get over is constantly being rehashed. I think we all know the answers. I'm in a group therapy. I'm seeing other peoples problems. It's 4 hours of depression. The only way out is within you! 👍👍👍

This is why I want to become a therapist – I just need to find my way out of this first. On a fun note, at 4:20 it's 11/11 at 11:11am on his calendar and clock.

Truth. I feel like Ive become sicker because of therapists. Its really odd how they spend a lot of time studying something and then go into practice with what feels like very little understanding of what they are treating. In the end , the patient has no idea if they are making it all up or if what they are sensing is valid.

ChatGPT does whats feels like a worlds better job than most therapists for moderate to heavy mental illness and complex trauma. Its all really sad.

Goddamnit Scott, I haven´t even finished the vid yet but you already described my frustrations with therapy to a T. And I´ve seen a shitload of those suckers. Psychiatrists too. My parents would always ask me when I described my symptoms "so what do these therapists have to SAY then to that?" …and I never had an answer. What DID they actually say to me? They never had a clear story or plan of action, while I've had hundreds of hours talking to them under my belt.

I've learned over the years that mental states are one of those things that everyone has an opinion about, just like politics. Then therapists in the worst case get falsely confident because they have a degree, but still they have no clue how to specifically address your issue or state of mind, life circumstances, etc. Plus it's shocking how little some of them actually know about social conditions, your financial/living conditions, opportunities/inequality, etc. They derive everything back to your "personality" or "thoughts" or "how you feel about it". That's individualization, meritocracy. It's all YOUR fault. I've become a firm believer that social conditions actually altogether determine your mental state, so sociology is actually way more important than psychology. Just like a fish who lives outside the water without other fish goes crazy and then dies. Same goes for humans.

One psychiatrist would sometimes join in with my meeting with a therapist for 30 minutes, be silent half the time, make a few remarks then would leave again. I would check the invoice on my health insurance a month later and that "consult" would have cost about €375. It was covered by my insurance, but she would take a large sum of that home. At the time I was stacking boxes in a warehouse and would take home €400 a week, breaking my back. Tell me again how I should "reframe my thoughts" again you bitch.

Therapy is the scam of these neoliberal times to individualize problems that have systemic causes. Trust your feelings, you feeling like shit is not your brain "misfiring" or any of that crap. It's your mind showing you the ugly truth of how shitty things are now.

I am a therapist and a person with mental illness. I agree that the system is broken. The best therapists in my area charge over $200 an hour and they do not take insurance. Most therapists are not competent in treating serious mental health challenges. Most can deal with situational challenges. Therapy is a business especially in private practice. Many therapists claim to be “specialized” in things that they are not truly specialized in. Many therapists will say that they specialize in trauma, EMDR, CBT, depression, ect. However, most therapists are just listing the populations that they prefer to work with. Doing a 3 hour trauma informed training does not make someone specialized in trauma. Most therapists are not going to tell you that they can’t cure you or significantly help you. They are not going to tell you that it will take years of therapy to moderately improve your symptoms. Most individuals with severe mental health problems will not make significant improvement in therapy. They will at best find moderate improvement. If patients were provided with this information ahead of time, then they wouldn’t do therapy unless they are looking for a paid “friend”If therapy was very helpful for the mentally ill then the pharmaceutical companies would go out of business. Also most graduate programs do not train people to be good therapists. They just teach the DSM and various theories. A therapist will need a lot more training outside of graduate school to be a good therapist. Regarding master’s level vs doctorate level therapists, I have not seen much of a difference.

Therapy is a business. Most therapists are generalists. They are not specialists. However, in order to survive therapists must have attractive profiles in order to attract potential clients so that they can make money. Most therapists will say that they specialize in X Y Z in order to attract new clients. Clients want to see someone that specializes in their issue. They do not want to see someone that has some experience in XYZ. The client reads the therapist’s profile and they feel like they found someone that can help them because the therapist looks good on paper. The client does a 15 min consultation and the therapist sounds promising. Therapists use 15 minute consultations to sell themselves. The therapists sounds like they know what they are talking about. The client sees the therapist for a few sessions and is disappointed because they are not making progress. They stop therapy and try to find someone else.

Also the issue with therapy is that the licensure exam is a written exam. The therapist is graded in how well they can answer questions. The therapist does not have to record themselves doing a session to the board to get licensed. The therapist can easily pass a written exam but do a terrible job applying these interventions in a therapeutic setting.

As a therapist, I only had to record two sessions in graduate school. I didn’t have to record any sessions while I was getting my hours towards licensure.

Don't waste your money with psychotherapist
They see you as money and nothing more
Depression, anxiety, trauma need love and understanding. You find the cure from a good friend or a relationship. Only love can win this hell called mental illness. Psychiatrists are fake too. Their psychiatric pills are deadly not solving the problem, just make it freeze , be strong all of you

Even psychiatrists can't help me. Mine keeps telling me to read a certain book. I can't find an environment I can focus long enough to read it. plus it gives me college flashbacks and all the pressure college was. My therapist tells me to fill in a CBT notebook. I can't carry that around all day. It'll gather attention and then certain people will wonder "what's in her notebook?" I feel so alone but then my therapists tell me to do things alone. Um I'm having an anxiety attack I can only do so much to take deep breaths or whatever soothing actions they suggest you do. Even if I was in a mental health facility — they ignore you there too.

Also, therapists only "care" about you while you're paying them. Once you can no longer afford their sessions, they couldn't give two sh*ts to know if you're even alive. Thinking that a therapist cares about you is like thinking that a stripper likes you. They only do when you're paying them

They dont care as long as they are getting paid 😂