The Truth About Treatment Resistant Depression: Part One (Breaking the Myth)
What is treatment resistant depression and perhaps more importantly, what does it say about the ineffective care many receive?
Treatment-resistant depression (TRD) is defined as major depressive disorder (MDD) that fails to respond to at least 2 anti-depressant medications.
Nearly 10% of the adult population in the U.S. experience a major depressive episode each year. The numbers in our youth are even more alarming with some studies suggesting that between 40-50% of college-aged students are living with depression.
While anti-depressant medications tend to be the first-line treatment for MDD, as Dr. Georgia Ede highlights, “it’s more common not to respond to standard antidepressants than it is to respond to them.”
This makes TRD the “norm”, but the name itself is misleading.
It doesn’t mean your brain is broken or that you’ve run out of options. In fact, it says more about the limits of our current standard of treatments than about you.
In this first episode of a three-part series, cardiologist Dr. Bret Scher sits down with Harvard-trained psychiatrist @GeorgiaEdeMD to unpack what treatment-resistant depression really means, why it’s more common than most people think, and why the term can be so harmful.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
– How depression is diagnosed
– The surprising prevalence of TRD
– Why antidepressants often fail to deliver lasting relief
– The biological factors (from inflammation to metabolic dysfunction) that may be driving MDD
– The importance of broadening the treatment toolbox beyond medication
If you or someone you love has been labeled with “treatment-resistant” depression, this conversation is an important reminder: there are other options to explore, and more importantly, there is hope.
Be on the lookout for episode 2 of this 3-part TRD series, where Dr. Scher and Dr. Ede cover alternative treatments and cutting-edge therapies including neurostimulation, psychedelic-assisted therapy, and metabolic interventions that could offer new hope.
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*Timestamps:*
0:00 – Introduction to the Treatment-Resistant Depression series with Dr. Georgia Ede.
2:45 – What is treatment-resistant depression (TRD)?
3:45 – What are major depressive disorder symptoms?
5:30 – What are the standard treatments for TRD and major depressive disorder?
7:57 – When a patient isn’t experience relief, what should be the next approach for treatment?
9:00 – Do anti-depressants actually help people?
11:36 – Is TRD the worst kind of depression?
13:40 – Do *more* meds usually help with TRD?
15:30 – How do people respond when receiving a diagnosis of treatment-resistant depression?
17:00 – How do we know when a new treatment approach is needed for major depressive disorder?
19:40 – What are some of the alternative treatments that will be discussed in episode 2?
24 Comments
Interesting point… having anemia will seriously hinder how any medication will help.
Have part 2 and 3 been released yet? Thank you
The two of you have such great rapport. It’s so easy to listen and absorb from you both as you have such natural, flowing conversations. More, more, more, please.
It would be good if they just didn't help, but what if they lead to depression that wasn't there before?
I hope that depression due to suffering constant, severe physical pain is addressed in a future episode. In my case, hideous pain and disability are the root causes of depression. Long-term Keto hasn’t helped the suffering. I don’t believe that experiencing hideous pain is a mental illness and therefore it should not be treated as one, but what does one do? Doctors cannot wait to try and throw anti-depressants at the problem.
Do psychiatrists routinely ask women with menstrual cycles about the relationship of their depressive symptoms with the stage of their cycle. Or if they are taking contraceptive pill or could be in early or peri menopause?
Could you talk about keto rash? I suffered from this for last two weeks.
I hope there will be a test of some sort of the brain, that can determine this.
So, most people dont respond to ssri's, but are left with the side effects.
Mind blown! 😲 Knowing it’s not about being “broken” but finding what actually works is so empowering. Hope for anyone struggling! 🌟💛 Heartfelt thanks!
This is making so much sense. Inflammation and blood glucose, both things that I'm struggling with. The changed thoughts, that's the worst. Your brain hyper focuses on everything negative in your life. Looking forward to learning more
Leave people stuck on “meds” make it all stuck and treament resistens and not to mention comming off all these drugs.
It it should be re labeled and renamed: pharmacological resistance reality… everything is "treatment resistant" when the treatment is nothing more than placebo or worse, notebook and ppl get worse or get permanent adverse reaction side effects
Any of you guys supplementing with L-Carnitine to support your ketosis yet? Did a bit of reading…and just started it
Very interesting and so true, can’t wait for the next episodes
Pharmaceuticals damage the body not great knowing this on top of your existing depression.
Can't wait to see the studies using KETO in so called "treatment resistant" bipolar depression or unipolar depression. Psychiatry goes through fads like the serotonin, omega-3, ketamine and magnetic stimulation one. Now it is KETO.
Thank you for doing this and for Metabolic Mind. It has given me direction and hope. I’ve been on antidepressants for sixteen years and they have made me worse. I should have never been on them. This is my 5th time attempting a taper, this time a lot slower and with the Keto diet. Thank you!
My son’s depression and psychosis is so bad! He’s like a Guinea pig with pills. It’s terrifying as his mother. I am gutted.
Learning about my food sensitivities / histamine and mast cells helped greatly with my headaches, brain fog and fatigue. Then adding hormone replacement therapy, at optimal not minimal levels has been life changing. No more antidepressants for me, ever. Ask ChatGPT for info and advice on histamine and mast cells problems and OTC supplements that can help. And if your doctor doesn't want to order hormone blood level checks, you can get them done yourself by ordering tests online then visiting a LabCorp or Quest near you. Then ask ChatGPT to help you find online clinics that can help you with hormone replacement.
I'm not sure what to do at this point honestly. I've been doing a keto diet since last year. And I haven't cheated, not once. I've been in some amount of ketosis for almost an entire year. I look at your background and how nice your place looks. Mine always ends up back to being a mess. I don't think I'm lazy. I work full time, I mow the grass, I work out three times a week. But I have no drive, no motivation, to be consistent. I get depressed and anxious and before I know it, my place is a mess. My Mom has schizophrenia. I don't have that and my life looks OK from the outside. I have a job, own a house and cars. I'm not fat or sickly looking. But I don't really have any people in my life. I have problems being social. I am kind of emotionally blunted. I dont enjoy much. So i cant really build any friendships gf wife or any of that. I don't really have any family either. So while my life is "good" on paper. That almost makes it worse. I have everything at my fingertips, but I cant put it all together. My lifetime averages are 96mg/dl glucose and 1.6mmol/l ketones if anyone was wondering.
Great
Or abandonment from a parent
I’m sharing my story on Downsized in September. You have helped me so very much.
This week marks two years out from a hospital stay where I blacked out and was given a prescription and just see a psychiatrist.
I took your path. I’ve lost 42 pounds. Got HRT, and gained eight pounds muscle.
I am SO greatful to folks like you. Blessings.