Charlie Kirk’s Murder Wasn’t About Mental Illness!
After the Charlie Kirk shooting, we need to discuss freedom of speech, radicalization, and why the news always seems to blame mental health for gun violence. Therapist explains why Charlie Kirk’s murder was not caused by mental illness.
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Its definitely made me more open to different ideas…i think we automatically discount things we dont agree with. Charlie did say and i think i heard it somewhere else before, that when we stop talking… bad things/violence can happen. Violence is never the answer.
Rest in Peace Charlie! ❤
I think the mistake a lot of people make when trying to explain an event like this is asking the question, "was it nature or nurture? " The reality is this is a false dichotomy. Human behavior is never just one or the other. It's always a complex interaction of the two
I'm German and we did have our share of school shootings in the early 2000s. I was still in school around that time. One thing that I read that was the only thing that connected all shooters was "access to a firearm".
Pretty much the last one was the Winnenden "Amoklauf" (= person with a weapon running around injuring and killing people) in March 2009. The guy who did this got his gun by knowing the combination of the gun safe of his father – and the father was dragged through legal and civil courts after the fact for not securing his firearms adequately.
Since then, attacks on schools with firearms have been extremely rare and less deadly. (There have been attacks but more with knives, molotov cocktails, etc. – which are less deadly than firearms.)
Also, schools and child protective services have been more diligent in finding potential shooters and taking care of them.
Mental health does play a role – but you really should push form common sense gun laws (that would be supported by 80+ % of US citizens but the US government won't touch because of the gun lobby). A mentally disturbed person with a knife can do a lot less damage than a mentally disturbed person with a (automatic) gun and it is a lot more likely that an unarmed person tries to overpower them to make them stop.
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Just FYI: Here in Germany you need to have a "Waffenschein" (="weapons license") in order to own a gun. You do know the concept of needing to demostrate that you can operate a vehicle safely before getting a driver's license. A car is something that is designed to move things around but might kill people if not operated inappropriately. A gun is designed to kill people. Why do you need a license for the car but not the gun in the US?
Thanks for doing this. I learn a lot from people who don’t think like me, so I try to listen. One thing I learned is when to shut conversations and dialogues down. When people start getting upset, I end the discussion.
The people who disagree with me often have a different background than I do. They live in their own echo chamber and never speak to anyone who is not exactly like them.
The perpetrator was Mormon. If he had gone for councelling he would have gone to one of these messed up Mormon councellors.
And then add the economic incentive of a ragebait economy.
Seems like you're saying hate speech is dangerous to the speaker because it enrages others to the point of violence? It's so weird that the we don't have laws against that. Even France, who basically founded it, has a mechanism for ppl to work out grievances over hate speech in a peaceful setting.
Also Charlie Kirk definitely thought there's too much empathy in the world. Kind of fits the point as unfortunately putting himself in danger from violent ppl. 😢
There are still investigation going on. I can't talk for the investigator, I could make very big error saying this, but it's very possible Tyler Robinson, the suspect shooter of Charlie Kirk, is part or with the political view of ANTIFA, a radical left group calling themself antifascist to be pro trans. I do not think I'm free to say what I think on youtube on this topic. It's not a discussion for all. I too believe transgender is not a mental illness, but I can't talk already after the but. It still should be agaist youtube guideline.
I only say what I am free to say. Homosexuality is not a life style. Charlie Kirk talk in a lot of video of homosexuality like a life style and still saying a woman is a woman and famous terf slang at the same time. This is why medicine is all in.
The cognitive biases that preceeded this event foretold it coming and if we don't foster free speech, violence is what usually follows when diplomacy fails in history. Internalized oppression is a fascinating force and shouldn't be minimized, but it has been. It's not a mystery why the "cry bully" exists. It doesn't matter if some people want to ignore or stigmatize mental health, if anything that is insight into the lack of self awareness that is about to follow, ironically. There's a problem with the concept of "free will" and believing whatever one wants, biases don't just happen by accident. Biases aren't some notion of "human nature", it's just bad ideas. Funny enough, AI large language models make all the same critical thinking errors as someone with anxiety. Can the machine have emotions? Or are those emotions being generated by the political lies we're told in society? It's not humans, a machine does it too. So what really is the problem? — Thanks for making this video, hopefully the world can find its empathy. I've spent the better part of a decade decoding bad ideas.
One doesn't need a diagnosis to understand the errors in thinking demonstrated in our media or those who readily accept these biases as true, in order to generate biases about identity, you would have to believe that it's real. Try a thought experiment, listen to people debate with the notion that identity doesn't exist and you may start to see what identity was always meant to distract you from. Someday I would love to pick a therapists brain on what they think of individualism and perhaps if there was a flaw with ever believing that wouldn't have consequences like externalization becoming the social norm. What could go wrong?
OMG FINALLY. i’m so tired of folks defaulting to mental health//mental illness as the catchall reason for why people do bad things. i get why it happens, but it’s just so harmful + problematic in so many ways.
i appreciate you addressing this. more ppl need to see this video.
I know you can’t diagnose people virtually, but I have a request. The Netflix documentary Unknown Number: the Highschool Catfish has gained a lot of popularity for this mom who was sending obscene stalking/harassing text messages to her daughter and daughter’s boyfriend and her behavior and explanation is bizarre. Cuddling and holding her daughter while the police are informing the daughter it was her mother all along. The daughter still wanting a relationship with her mother. I would be very interested to see a video and hear your take on what types (if any) of personality disorders, mental health issues etc would potentially explain her behavior.
You totally nailed it. Pre-existing relationship is foundational for this kind of dialogue and debate to happen, and turning to our neighbors who we do life with rather than taking sides and being vulnerable to group bias.
When has this crap not gone on in humanity? Humans are humans as apes are apes.