How Depressed Brains Function
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As well, you feel every inch of the present very deeply and terribly, and not for any particular reason. The feeling then is reinforced by the 2 mechanisms mentioned. Its a disastourous feedback loop.
Yeah, going from one place to the other over and over is really horrible.
Can someone talk about how the present isn’t super helpful w/o help tho
I don't try to look at the future beyond 4-5 years. I have goals, I don't have goals and future thing as direction today that will result in what it results in over time. The past, no point in looking at the past with regret, look at it as lesson and how can I apply them to now. Then I think of now. My now, you now, their now. All different out by seconds over the span of our live. All due Einstein's Theory of relativity. That's off topic but really cool anyways.
Silly doctor.
EVERYONE is still living at home… Unless they're homeless.
Silly doctor 😂
The sad thing is I think in both ways🤦
Severely depressed for similar reasons. Try everything I can to push it aside and work on what I can do for myself today. But then I just get the exact same results. It doesn't seem to matter how hard, how long or how many different ways I try.
Is this not the default mode of thought for all people at almost all times? Have I been misled?
Yes. And it can be triggered by something happening currently like when someone important to you disregards you.
I’ve swung between both. My current meds keep me in a state of struggling to feel joy in the present, but I at least I no longer regret the past or dread the future (well, at least not more than is reasonable given *gestures at world*)
Parasites
I knew people who lived with parents at 28. They saved money because of that and own houses now. I know 40 y.o who moved out and still rent.
Thx
And then comes the promise of Moral Superiority & they become Woke…
my depression comes being in the body that i have. chronic pain. old body. easily injured. can't do things bcause my body doesn't cooperate. that's where the depression comes from. not the past or future. suffering in the present with no escape because of this body.
Trance-ending the programmatical "normality" of the "matrix"/the farm/pharm of domesticated "humans"…
What about the pain of now? Because now hurts too .
I love your videos.
But one thing that starts to infuriate more and more are these formats.
You always present a certain issue or view people can identify with and rarely to almost never mention a single step on how to start working on the issue at hand.
I don’t know if it’s because of the limited length, or potential promotion for your service but either way I’m just always left mentally blueballed and it’s really bothersome
I get that accepting and identifying the state you’re in is the first step most of the time, but being met with a scenario you identify with leaves you worrying more than before.
50% under 30? Well I would hope so lol…..hopefully 100% under 15 yrs old…..
What if it's both at once?
Yes, but I still dont know If I have depression. I have problems with ruminations of the past for the past few years but when I dont ruminate I feel great and I can enjoy things. I am not emotionally blunt in fact I have a problem of feeling to many emotions and they are too intense but I really do ruminate on my past mistake and have many regrets although I have managed to lower it by 80/90 percent by meditation. How would you define this behaviour?
When you live in the past and the future you have no peace or happiness. I lived there for years.
When you stop thinking, stop projecting your emotions and energy onto everything and everyone…..you come into the Now , the present and your thoughts become about you and you have no judgement about others.
BRING YOUR Thoughts to I AM
STOP DOING EVERYTHING WHAT OTHERS WANT YOU TO DO
BE YOUR AUTHENTIC SELF
LIVE YOUR life
Read the art of not giving a F
Right! 💯
I can watch him endlessly. He is brilliant. No wonder the system hates him.
Interesting reflection. Not a critique or anything, but what about people who just hate themselves? What people who feel unwanted?
Just spitballing but I think that a lot of expression might be expressed as rationalisations, i.e. “I hate ___ about me since I did ___ in the past”, or “I think that my gifts are things that people won’t ever really need or want”.
These examples are justifications for the depression, but the depression itself is rotted in a present experience.
Something that has existed in the past but is primarily painful because it is expressed in the present.
The example of loneliness strikes me as interesting because it sounds like the root of the issue is that they are lonely now. Speaking about how it seems scary that you might seem lonely in the future is just an expression of a current phenomenon.
I guess what I’m trying to say is all the comments saying “focus on the present” are not very convincing. Anyone could just as easily root their expression in present experience and still experience just as intense depression.
Honestly, when I dealt with depression I found out that I was concentration on the present, but in a negative way. What actually got me out of it was the furutre, it was not there yet, so I had a chance. I just had to believe that it would pass. That's what got me thru it. Every time I was reaching the edge and had thoughts about ending it I had to remind myself that it will pass, that everything is temopraly, so is pain. Stay strong soilders.
still living at home? where else would I live
"50% of people under the age of 30 still live at home" That sounds alarming at first, but does this statistic include minors?
I'm depressed because it seems like I'm not allowed to have any wants or needs. I'm not even allowed to be human. I'm just supposed to be this ant in an anthill
How do you break the chains?
Who tf is depressed because of climate change?
Climate change is a media scam
Mohammed Ali said “The past is a dream, the future is a mist”.
Climate Change 😂
If you feel hopeless about your future that doesnt mean your future is hopeless! I got through a very severe depression that convinced me I wouldn't survive let alone feel good again. Depression lies!! The first lie is "you are always going to feel this bad" and the second is "nobody loves you". God loves you, get to know God and Jesus and talk to your angels and ask them to give you strength to keep going until you feel better.
Think of the things you loved to do as a child and do those things. For me it is drawing and painting.
Start eating a healthy Mediterranean type diet and drinking plenty of water and get rid of the alcohol and soft drinks and processed junk food. See a therapist and learn to be assertive and treat yourself and other people with respect. Find a few friends who after you spend time with them you feel better, not drained. This is what is working for me. Just do one day at a time.xx
Not that easy to look positively at the present either. It's the result of the past and the materials we have to work with for the future. It's all connected.
While this is true… I find being in the present really doesn’t help either bc so many memories, regrets, & the sensations I’ve numbed or disassociated from all come flooding in & my mind goes into a horrible rumination of everything I hate about myself & my life 😞
I worked hard doing what I thought was right/best. And while it was, objectively based on my personal situation (single parent, with no support.) I never rly got to develop my own interests, skills & gifts.. now I’m looking back on my life & feel a shit ton of regret, missed opportunities & now I have autoimmune & other health issues that make daily life infinitely harder. There’s intense self-hatred & hopelessness that I can’t seem to pull myself out of, & I don’t want to be a burden on anyone else with such negativity, & when you’re depressed ppl either feel compelled to give you solutions or tell you you’re just not trying hard enough. None of which is helpful so just struggle through it alone
No ragrets
In therapy, my therapist and I came up with very useful techniques to help get out of this. We all have our days it's easier and then days it's harder to think this way, but here it goes. Just remember to be kind and patient with yourself because these thinking techniques aren't ingrained in a day or two. It takes time to retrain your brain and that's ok! When you practice what you practice starts to turn into a routine and then a habit to eventually turn into a belief system. 😊 Here it goes: You can't change the past so challenging your mind to think more about the lessons you learned from past regrets and/or mistakes to avoid dwelling in the past. Then, holding yourself to a higher standard if certain situations arise again in the future. When it comes to the future, remind yourself you can't control what will or will not happen. All you can control is how you think about it which will push you into how you feel and affect your behaviors. Telling yourself that no one gets to enjoy the view from the top of the mountain until after you put the hard work in to climb the mountain first is extremely helpful. Remember on the way up that nobody gets to the top their first time without stopping for breaks along the way. Be gentle with your growth. Both helps restore hope mentally. ❤
It's also that depressed people hate the present where they are now. If you regret the past, hate the present, and are scared of the future, where do you go?
So what di you tell ppl who do both? Regret the past and fear the future?
I know someone with MDD and CPTSD. She's been bullied since age 5 and STILL battles bullying from the medicalSystem in her early 40s. It led to her developing AUD esp when a psych Dr completely stripped her away from a sleep and anti anxiety meds without properly tapering it.
Also having BPD, she battles SI 24/7 and hates life. It's not only irritating but frightening to witness. Even scarier is how profound depression is in the USA alone… 😳
Well I call it realism. It's cooked out there, that is not depression or dillusion. It's just the bleak reality.
It feels like something is very wrong so the mind tries to identify what is wrong so that it can be fixed. It can lead to fixating on problems that are out of your control (climate change) and feeling helpless about the challenges that are in your control (getting some exercise). Getting some exercise might not immediately shift the feeling that something is wrong so the mind keeps identifying all the things that are wrong. It even does it while you're sleeping. Studies show that depression causes a greater amount of REM sleep which leads to deeper depression which leads to a more painful feeling that something is wrong… Depression is a negative feedback loop.
Aww… That's sad 💔
it’s not that I don’t have hope in the future, I know it will go on but I can‘t see a future, it’s just blank, earlier in life I had visions and dreams but they are gone, whats that about? Trauma?
Goodness me, guess I had all 3. Earlier in life, before it was alleviated a few months ago, my depression had lasted years and gotten worse over time. My mind was looking AT THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE, and I found strong negativity in the future, medium negativity in the past and present. I was always concluding my hope was not logical, and on bad foundations. The ONLY thing that worked, was turning to something illogical: leaning on my lifelong Christian faith. Despite my Christian faith being lifelong, 30 years, i had never read the adult version. Reading one of the many adult versions of the bible assisted me greatly with depression. The bible version I used: the iPhone app called ‘through the word’. I listen to it as I travel to/from work. Approx 20 hours per week.
I feel everyone is on this spectrum, learning how to be more present. But that doesn’t mean they’re depressed necessarily. They’re having a human experience.
What do you do if the present hurts too much though and there is not a lot you can do to change your life?