How to Avoid Getting Involuntarily Committed to a Psychiatric Hospital

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  1. They locked my daughter away involuntary 10 times in the last 6 years. She originally was stressed out w/ school, grades, college and not sleeping – she just burnt out. they assumed she was trying to kill herself and the psych drug nghtmare began. (ages 17 to now almost 24). She wasn't sleeping nor eating (she wasn't allowed to go to her HS graduation [which made her depressed] because the school insisted she get psychiatric help).

  2. It’s so ridiculous and arbitrary and what’s so ridiculous about it is I have bipolar and there were times I was slipping into mania where I could feel myself getting psychotic and I went to the hospital and said listen. I need to be monitored. I do not feel OK. And they Would not admit me because I wasn’t suicidal, and they said that because I was cognizant that I was mentally unwell that meant that I wasn’t a danger to myself. Of course it slipped into psychosis, and I ended up in the emergency room yet again, and being involuntarily committed.

    Other times, it’s been called in that I was displaying behavior that was suicidal, or I was under the influence of substances, and I was actually just drunk, and not even thinking about hurting myself or feeling psychotic at all. And it was used against me and I was involuntarily committed. Now what’s there is just Wrong?

  3. So let me get this straight. I want to commit suicide I’m going to commit suicide, but you’re telling me you’re not gonna let me because you’re gonna lock me in a facility I don’t think so.😂

  4. I am sure majority of proffesionals out there put in the effort into listening and actually meeting the needs of their patients in these scenarios. Unfortunately in my case, it was nothing of the sort. I had only a few sessions where I only expressed my sense of worthlessness but not anything else to indicate that I was at risk (in fact, I mentioned that I do not want to do that, just needed someone to listen).

    Waiting for me in the lobby was two paramedics and several police officers. I can't remember what happen afterward but I just remember feeling betrayed. It didn't help that the police also opened a criminal investigation aganst my mother. A fact I only discovered after she managed to get me out of the ward hours later. They were trying to get her for abuse which I have never even brought up at any point during my sessions simply because nothing of the sort happened (my mom is actually really sweet but even she isn't capable of healing all of my wounds from my parent's divorce and custody battle).

    Perhaps this all happened because of my age at the time (18-19) but still. It was a sudden and rapid series of events and as I said, I just needed someone to talk to. My trust in threapists has slowly returned but I ironically feel that not being too honest or open about myself is the only way to avoid this in the future since it is no guranatee that the next professional I see will honour my wishes.

    Edit for clarification: I'm in the USA. Regardless, It seems this is a world-wide issue from what I heard from others with similar experiences.

  5. My question is
    WHY are all PWs grubby disgusting decrepit prisons and not nicely tended clean and proper living spaces? Why do they have a major reputation for always being the worst part of the hospital? Why are they always left in such decay if theyre supposed to help people and we all know 75 percent of the time I'd guess they HURT vulnerable citizens more?!

  6. My question is
    WHY are all PWs grubby disgusting decrepit prisons and not nicely tended clean and proper living spaces? Why do they have a major reputation for always being the worst part of the hospital? Why are they always left in such decay if theyre supposed to help people and we all know 75 percent of the time I'd guess they HURT vulnerable citizens more?!

  7. My question is
    WHY are all these places usually disgusting decrepit prisons and not nicely tended clean and proper living spaces? Why do they have a major reputation for always being the worst part of the hospital? Why are they always left in such decay if theyre supposed to help people and we all know 75 percent of the time I'd guess they HURT vulnerable citizens more?!

  8. I was actually put in one for my openness to support Palestine and being a Muslim. There's almost anything you can get put in for and they have been used for political punishment.

  9. I'e had a really bad one…. I wasn't drunk or anything… but was 'held' in a foraign country…. I don't really know how to deal with this….

  10. My brother has been discharged from psychiatric hospital uk tonite only found out when i phoned to speak to him no consideation for hos ptoperty going with him no contact to me despite me being nok and asking to be informed with consent from. My brother . I dont live nearby so unable to be there to offer peactical support ..disgusting experience probably be admitted again soon ..i have no clue re aftercare wot that looks like going forward etc basically doscharged l to grubby b&b.eft vulnerable adult to just get on with things himself washed their hands of him dont care as long as hes off their hands dispicable and obviously will be nKing a formal mak a complaint but have no hope this will change anything for the better ..

  11. In nj usa if you look different or are a non conformist, you can be committed and forced to take heavy antipsychotic drugs. If you do not take them voluntarily they shoot up the victimized person. So, I found myself in that position and I tried their drug that seemed to destroy me .. immediate tremors, drooling and my brain got cloudy and I could not think straight. By dose #2 after being forced an injection, I pretended to take the drug and spit it into my hand then flushed it.
    By the time I saw a judge, I had gone through multi medicine rapid detox w/o intervention and was having severe trouble sleeping. I had been awake for days and had to play possom (pretend to be asleep) as they had staff doing 15 minute checks.
    The night before my commital hearing the doctor doubled the dose of medicine that was poison in my view. I did not take that either even though I was getting loopy from next to no sleep for 9 nights (i did meditate often during that time) So on day ten I went to a "commital hearing" in front of a judge. He asked the psychiatrist a few questions. (I m 68). One of which was "isn't it unusual for a person of my age to be diagnosed with bipolar for the first time at her age? The only thing that psychiatrist said for diagnosing me as bipolar was that I was delusional about roaches( in my rented room). It was that psychiatrist's opinion that I needed long term help.
    After they all said their piece, I was given a chance to speak. I was sworn in. I explained to the judge that I solved the roach problem for the entire building by seeding the house with diatomaceous earth. Idnot recall what else I said.
    I thank G-d that judge actually knew what diatomaceous earth was, and he said that he knew what that was because he had himself used it. (phew)
    Because I had a place to go to, and the doctor had been discredited, I was permitted to go home.
    In nj you can be commited to psyhe facilities for being a unique individual and homeless. Shame on them.
    I cannot begin to describe how painful the ordeal was. I was forced to rapidly detox (no med intervention) from xanax and oxicodone hcl and zanaflex that I had been taking a stable dose for years to help me manage ptsd and spinal chord damage. I was very sick.
    What I saw in that place was horrifying. After the decision by the judge to allow me to go home after proof of residence, I saw the psychiatrist in the nursing station. Our eyes locked and his face and neck flushed brightly. I am one of the fortunate people. I saw what they did and were doing. The place was a for profit freedom stealing drug industry.
    Keep up your good works.

  12. I would never EVER tell anyone I'm suicidal, even though I think about it almost every day. My worst fear in the whole world is being sent to one of those "psych wards" (prisons).

  13. how to avoid getting sent to a psychiatric ward? Considering that a vast bulk of claims of psychiatric illness is imaginary and considering that these labels pathologize both sides no matter which one you take, a psychiatrist is very likely going to commit you no matter what. Especially if for some reason, he doesn't like you. You want to avoid getting committed? Avoid psychiatrists/the "mental health field."

  14. Or you can just except from one lol I did them I let all them out now they are trying to send me to one and I told my therapist about how I have except from one wonts and I don't think it a good idea because it would just make me even more worse and I would hurt everyone in the place really bad and then except but this time the cops will not get me this time and it would make me even worse then when I went in and I am scared when I got out I might be hurt people all the time after I got out but right now I am not so please don't do it and when they tryed to take me I will hurt them to and I can get out of everything the jackets and I can get out of hand cuff real fast to so for her just to let me be before there be some problems what's how you get out lol no to really they put you in one for saying all that but it's all true about me and fuck a therapist a therapist is just as scary as them they put in there and I love messing with the therapist mind and head when I been going to therapy my hole life and they don't no it was and they are some unger person that just started doing therapy the look on there faces be funny as hell to me and I make it like I am the therapist and they are here to see me and then I turn around and tail them that we witch is I is going to put them in a metal hospital and then they say for what for F with mental people and that I say your a therapist because you are mental because how would want to go to school to talk and mess with mental people a person that is mental them selfs and you and i no that is true lol😂😂😂

  15. If you do go to the hospital for suicidal stuff and if they are taking to long you can just tail them to give you your damn clothes and just leave they won't try to keep you I no I have done it so there is no place that can hold me not even jail got out to even with the bars locked I am so small I just go right through the bars and can pick locks really fast even got out of a rehab in Mexico and crossed over into the USA and I even expect from a boarding school that had guards at the doors of everyone and I still got out

  16. I think part of why sui is handled the way it is in a hospital setting is that they’d like to deter ppl from coming in for anything other than imminent risk. Everything that happens in a hospital is incredibly expensive. They really don’t want to play the role of a $10,000 therapist/friend, and the only thing that supersedes that is the fact that they have a duty to keep human beings alive.

    It’s an all around depressing reality.

  17. Never be brought to the emergency room by an ambulance when having psychosis. My wife was acting very strange one morning and I thought she was having a stroke. Called an ambulance, brought her to the ER and lost her to the state only to get her back 15 hours after she was admitted to a mental hospital. I was able to speak with the judge over her case and he released her to me. As for having a family member there, the case worker on her case recommended her to stay. Pissed me off on a level I never thought I could be. It was a long hard road, and I strongly recommend you do a ton of research on psychosis, but I would rather have my wife with me instead of locked up beyond my control.

  18. Can anyone tell me how someone on ssi disability benefits who is treatment resistant depression I’ve tried many meds and types more than once. I have Medicaid and I am 34. I need serious help but long for long term. I wish it were an option to be in a safe environment long term to work through CPTSD, BPD, ocd, my three anxiety disorders, learn coping skills, over come these constant desires to hang myself no one cares. Everyone wants me gone I’m tired of suffering I don’t have any support. My therapist’s are flakey and I’m gonna be a statistic. My mom tells me just do it in public never end myself in her home. She’ won’t even hug me she’s extremely abusive. I would do anything to be kept long term and get help. I can’t afford to pay some inpatient treatment center. 🙁 any advice?

  19. People that are very , very annoying can drive people to despair and suicide . My Father was giving me terrible headaches with the T V blaring first thing in the morning , I said to my Father " You hate me " and an annoying neighbour who banned me from watching T V , so that he could watch boring surfing video cassettes .

  20. I once made the mistake of calling a crisis line and divulging a suicide plan. I was dealing with a crisis in my business because of an application I provide being down, and I called a crisis line about it. I had the police pick me up and take me to the Emergency Room, and I was admitted to the psych ward. Fortunately, I was discharged in 36 hours. The good thing was that I asked the psychiatrist what triggered the police response, and he made it clear that it was that having the suicide plan is a threat of danger to myself, so I know not to make that mistake again if I ever call a crisis line in the future.

  21. Im constantly refused medical help. There ia a reference to a drug called Ziyphrexa on my file . I am victim of commercial chemical pesticide application gone wrong. My feet and hands were purple. I can no get help. This has been going on for 5 yrs. My feet are numb I am super ill ,itchy,now my arms,hair falling out, lymphnods hurt. Much more. They yell at me of you took ur zyphrexa you would be fine. I keep asking for a health advocate. Seems like i have to die.

  22. Got sectioned once(sorta). You gotta be careful what you say to these doctors man. You piss them off they can immediately say that they feel you are a danger or threat and put you in lockdown with security surrounding you. Thankfully they had a REAL psychiatrist in the building come down instead of just an average ER doctor and the doctor evaluated me and within 5 minutes we had already started filling out my discharge papers. Needless to say never going back to that place again.

  23. This is a form of abuse… Fortunately, I am okay, but I am socially liberal and I feel terrible for these people…

    Dignity and the sense of ownership over one’s body run deeper than judgment or logic. They are parts of the essence of human existence.
    Respecting an individual's will not to violate their self-determination is, in itself, a second, fundamental will, which is always true and of primary importance, regardless of the content or "logic" of the first will. This second will is never disturbed by low DMC because it is universal.
    Moreover, involuntary commitment is the cause of many deaths among people who wanted treatment but were afraid because, like many others, they placed the ownership of their body (self-determination) above their own survival. It also leads to suicides, not due to illness, but because of the trauma of dehumanization (the violation of self-determination).

    This is a form of selective denial of the right to treatment based on one’s beliefs.

    There is no justification for these actions, not even for saving lives. (It’s like torturing and stealing kidneys to save others… because statistically, you are certain to sacrifice some people… by abusing them).

    Those of you who have gone through this should know that you are victims of a paternalistic medieval remnant, and your freedom is inherent; it was simply not respected by these animals with degrees… This does not diminish you, but rather the lawful criminals who did this to you.

    You have many citizens, philosophers, the UN, and the CRPD on your side. (Kant, Camus, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, and many others would undoubtedly stand with you).

    None of the animals who did this to you are capable of diminishing the value you have as human beings.

  24. How could you avoid if you go in an ER for a physical condition and your drjgged, unconscious & detained? How can you avoid this? A great deal of psychiatrist are criminally mi ded and corrupt.

  25. If the intention were to help, then there would also be forced rehabilitation for smokers, for example. I mean, yes, they're "aware" of what they're doing (which in terms of consequences doesn't matter anyway), but their actions end up negatively impacting other people (many deaths are due to passive smoking). If drastic decisions aren't made even under these conditions, and are made with people with a much lower potential for harm, it means that such decisions aren't based on expected consequences, but on how weak or vulnerable the person is (i.e., how much you can exploit them).

  26. My wife has BPD and she is very tricky and she always blames me for covering her severe mental illness. She has several psychosis episodes and gets into violently loud fights. How to get her to treatment?

  27. For victims, gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which someone makes another person doubt their own reality, memory, or mental health. The gaslighter may lie, distort facts, or deny things they have said or done, leaving the other person feeling confused or uncertain about what is real. The perpetrator often seeks to implant a false belief that the victim has mental health issues, causing them to lose confidence in their own decision-making and to doubt all their thoughts. In doing so, the gaslighter gains power over the victim. In a medical context such as psychiatry, this form of manipulation is known as medical or institutional gaslighting. A tool for liars and fraudsters!

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